Fernando, we can have our own threads, let them have their threads. Start a thread adn we can talk about this, we don't need a conflagaration with hurt feelings. Paz a ud!
Bubblegum Apotheosis
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What is with abusive atheists?
by Fernando insorry folks, i know the "candace conti case" is where all our time attention should be for now.
i just had this much less important issue on my heart and wanted to make a quick note of it, as i am struggling with remembering all the details as clearly afterward.. although i am a non-religious believer and simple follower of jesus, i have had some constructive interaction with atheists and agnostics on jwn.
i do enjoy learning more about their perspective.
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Will the Society Publish and Repent?
by unclebruce inbe nice if the court order included full disclosure via the watchtower magzine.. .
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Bubblegum Apotheosis
CANDANCE IS NOT AN APOSTATE! SHE IS A BOLD WOMAN THAT HAS MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN THE ORGANIZATION! HER LAWSUIT AND HER OWN VINDICATION YELL'S, THE WATCHTOWER HAS BEEN FOUND "WANTING AND LACKING" FOR EVERYONE WHO DECIDES TO REMAIN IN!
The Apostates are the Hopni and Phineas type men who hid pedophiles from the congregation as a whole. Jehovah has judged the Watchtower Society and found their Pedophile Parachuete Packages full of gaping holes. Candance has brought in new light to some old dim witted men.
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Hutterites Shunned for education and high school sports
by puffthedragon ini have never heard of this group but i turned on the tv and right now (eastern time) there is a show on national geographic called american colony/hutterites and they are shunning members for allowing their children to have more education than they deem neccessary as well as playing school sports.
the group also appears to think they are the only ones going to heaven.. anyone know more about this or have experience with them?
struck a chord with me..
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Bubblegum Apotheosis
http://www.hutterites.org/ This website will give you the pure and unadultrated version of their unconditional love.
We have generalized them into the Anabaptist movement, I remember reading how these marginalized religions were being attacked or their deviation from Calvin and Luther's teachings. The same way Arminism was villified by the anti-Arminism movements with the Dutch-Holland countries of the late 1600s to mid 1700s, my Anabaptist history is rusty. They do not get involved in politics, do not kill, take care of their commune. Good post Puff!
http://www.hutterites.org/day-to-day/education/secondary-education/
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The Fastest Growing Religion in America IsÂ…
by Dogpatch inthe fastest growing religion in america is... .
may 4, 2012 9:11 amcomments (54)author: the american dream.
do you know what the fastest growing religion in america is?
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Bubblegum Apotheosis
How many are brought in legally and illegally from H1-B1 VISAs or H1-B2 Visas? Northern United States and Canada have a huge influx of illegal immgirants coming into the United States form the Middle East. Can we count the vast amount of Spanish Culture individuals as being Catholic? The growth of these men and women, are they legal or illegal?
What kind of growth is it, Organic Growth or In-Organic growth in the Islamic religion? We are not as hard hit as the European Union, their welfare benefits are far superior to the United States, so we are by passed in this way. Denmark, Holland and Germany were offering money to pay for them to leave those countries, they found out they had a high tendency to be unemployed, draining resources. The Smiling Swedes have been the hardest hit, the Swedes are getting robbed, plundered and smiling as they hand over their wallet and cell phone. Sweden has been learning the harsh reality of being politically correct, even Wiki founder Hassan has said they are failing from their lack of direction, they might implode? Nothing like three smiling Swedes talking a walk, only to be mugged by teenage pirates from Somalia.
France is having to come to grip with the swelling growth of illegal immigrants from Africa and the Middle East. Why do you think their economy is in shambles, I am not xenophobic, when you have a huge influx of unskilled immigrants heading to a country with fifteen to twenty five percent unemployment, what is left for the citizens and legal residents? How many years ago did we see the peaceful men and women lighting their own Government flats on fire? Burning cars and rioting over the lack of oppertunity and preceived prejudice from the French? The French want to hire a legal citizen and they are labeld "racist, bigot, xenophobic", what a mess the European Union is in, who is to blame?
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Why do only xian religions have soo many pedo problems ?
by mP inim not trying to poke fun at any particular religion or show favouritism, but im having a hard time recalling similar repeated scandals in non xian religions.
i cant recall hearing of pedo scandals in islam or buddism.
yes i know that islam perpetrates many other evils like so call honour killings but buddhism seems to be rarely in the news for similar evils ?
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Bubblegum Apotheosis
@Qcmbr: Ditto, how can you talk about something that is not talked about within the culture? Women are treated as less value than a domestic cow according to some traditions. Can you abuse women and get away with it, it's in the Quran, as long as you don't kill them! Youtube had original videos on "How to beat your wife" and most have been removed, the parody ones are left to mock this real life problem in countries under Sharia Law.
Christian women were raped by doctors who worked in Pakistanian hospitals, their sin? They refused to convert to Islam. Tribes in Pakistan, Afghanistan have been reported of killing daughters who were raped, when it was no fault of their own. They had the Burka, and all modest to prevent unsavory horny men from raping them, and they are accused of "wanting it, being a defiled being, their virginity being removed, made them a liability to their family, so killing them was considered the honorable thing to do!
Next time Mp you try to pass off Islam as something better than Xians, make sure the crowd does not have someone who studied their religion for ten years, and knows how they think, I think you knew this but were hoping to feign ignornace until you were called on it!
One of the best passages that has caused heated debates has been this passage.
"(QURAN 52:24): "And there will go round boy-servants of theirs, to serve them as if they were preserved pearls."
(QURAN 56:17): "They will be served by immortal boys."
(QURAN 76:19): "And round about them will (serve) boys of everlasting youth. If you see them, you would think them scattered pearls."
Arabic famous poet Abu Nuwas:
"O the joy of sodomy!
So now be sodomites, you Arabs.
Turn not away from it--
therein is wondrous pleasure.
Take some coy lad with kiss-curls
twisting on his temple
and ride as he stands like some gazelle
standing to her mate.
A lad whom all can see girt with sword
and belt not like your whore who has
to go veiled.
Make for smooth-faced boys and do your
very best to mount them, for women are
the mounts of the devils"http://www.albatrus.org/english/religions/islam/72virgins_and_boys.htm
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Why do only xian religions have soo many pedo problems ?
by mP inim not trying to poke fun at any particular religion or show favouritism, but im having a hard time recalling similar repeated scandals in non xian religions.
i cant recall hearing of pedo scandals in islam or buddism.
yes i know that islam perpetrates many other evils like so call honour killings but buddhism seems to be rarely in the news for similar evils ?
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Bubblegum Apotheosis
Mp, do yourself a favor, read Craig Winn's works on Islam, he is one of the best historians, not afraid of all the death threats he has received. Craig's work stand's on his use of the five most ancient sources of Islamic written tradition. Are you a former Muslim Mp, or do you live in a Islamic country? I have thought you might be living in this region, just from your silence on Islamic teachings, while firing off a Xians. "The Sword of the Prophet" from an atheist/former Muslim teacher's perspective might be your style?
What religious leader married a girl of six years old, had sex with her until she was 8 or 9 years old? Stories vary from 8 or 9 according to the most accuarte Hadiths, yet for arguments sake we can say she Aisha was 9 years old.
"Tabari IX:128 "When the Prophet married Aisha, she was very young and not yet ready for consummation." (6 Years Old According To Tradition) This is how it happened: Tabari IX:131 "My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two branches and got me down. My nurse took over and wiped my face with some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped so I could catch my breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap. The other men and women got up and left. The Prophet consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old
This kind of loving feedback Muslims provide to defend their religon against Craig Winn, who is a "Jew Lover, Christian Lover" is typical of anyone filled with hatred. I have debated Muslims and their rage surfaces quickly when you are familiar with the Quran, and the Hadiths. Using hatred and death threats to defend your beliefs, justifys all the drones flying around, looking for the fountains of this kind of freedom hating culture. It's my way, or death, Christians are terrified in Eygpt right now, afriad the Coptic Christians will be wiped out after Two Thousand Years of existence, all because of the Religon Of Peace.
http://prophetofdoom.net/Feedback.Islam
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Facebook Comments From JWs About Kendrick Case
by cofty ini can't believe do catholic priest get hit with payouts like this.
definitely feel terrible what happened to her but to hold the society responsible for a person not living by bible standards is crazy.
what a pack of lies about secrecy and cover ups.
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Bubblegum Apotheosis
"I agree with many of you, Jehovah will prevail. As His Witnesses, it's up to us to continue sanctifying His name." The Lords Prayer has Jehovah sanctifying his name, not human beings!
I thought parents were told to not go to the police through mind control means like "If you go to the police, you are bring reproach against Jehovah's Holy Name!" This trash was used to dissuade people from bringing any media, police or other "Superior Authorities" from cleansing the Watchtower Organization. NO REPROACH is the mantra! We know it, these modern day clowns don't seem to know what they believe!
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CAN ANYONE SPARE A DONATION FOR THE WORLD WIDE WORK FOR $11.6 Million?
by Bubblegum Apotheosis inthe society's will probably pay out $5-$7,000.000 on this award instead of filing an appeal.
the brother was fined 60 percent of the damages, the society held 40% of the liability of this lawsuit.. .
.40 x $28,000,000 is $11.6 million dollars!.
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The Society's will probably pay out $5-$7,000.000 on this award instead of filing an appeal. The brother was fined 60 percent of the damages, the Society held 40% of the liability of this lawsuit.
.40 x $28,000,000 is $11.6 Million dollars!
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What Are You Looking For, Something That Makes Sense Of Kingdom Hall Conduct?
by Bubblegum Apotheosis ini know it's hard to challenge your beliefs you have held onto so long, what else is out there in this world, that makes sense?
once upon a time, we had a edge over the world, we had "game" but this is fading.
think about the talks you heard at the "one day, two-day or summer conventions", were you upbuilt and told how valuable you are?
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Smiddy, one of the first questions you ask a young brother who wants to be used in the Congregation is "How do you appear to your brothers and sisters in the Kingdom Hall?, Are you visible or invisible?" Exactly like he said "It's all about appearances!" Showing up for field service all dressed up, and leaving the parkinglot alone for a "Special Call" (going back to bed, heading out fishing) reinforces the "appearance part! LOL!
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It took me a long time to write this...i'm staying.
by MsGrowingGirl20 init took me a long time to write this....i'm being brutally honest...i am still a reg pioneer...three sundays ago,i was praying and asking god for a sign or something because i was so confused...i told him exactly what i needed to see for me to believe.i was feeling terrible--crying and feeling sick because i was so confused.ten minutes after, i walked into the kingdom hall and to my surprise--my prayer was answered!
i soooo wasn't expecting it, even though i prayed.
so this is where almighty god wants me to be,ii've reasoned.
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Bubblegum Apotheosis
What are you looking for here "growinggirl20"? What brings you to our neck of the woods, you have some unsettled issues or questions you would like answered? We have been where you are, what if Jehovah does bring the "End" now, can you tell me how you differ from monotheistic Mennonites who preached in 1800s Mongolia, North and South China, who lived the truth as close to the Word as possible? Are you picking up your torture stake by driving around in circles for six hours, drinking Starbucks coffee and eating Denny's Grand Slam Breakfasts, make you holy? How can you compare yourself to men and women who were true martyers like Chrisanthama or Ufula, Saint Patrick, Servants, Waldenses, Milton, Newton, Wycliffe?
Why was the last time you saw a CO go with a meal for the sake of Christ? The Apostle Paul letters and Missionaries (The True Pioneers) of the past, demonstrate true self-lessness, how can you compare what you do with a real Missionary? It's Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit to claim driving in some air conditioned car, calling on Ghost-Towns is spreading the word of Christ!